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Wow. Other companies are moving away from super restrictive DRM, and Ubisoft implements this?
Steam is sort of like this, but it has an offline mode, so a permanant internet connection isn't needed. I for one am am very thankful for this, as I've been travelling a lot and am regularly without internet.
How can they even dream of saying that this equates to dropping DRM? This is one of the most restrictive DRM schemes around
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Stuff: I purchased their DRM free Prince of Persia game solely to support their efforts. Apparently, that support was misplaced . . . fool me once . . . =).

Same here. So long, UbiSoft. Shame. I was looking forward to AC2 as well. Oh well, there are plenty of other games out there.
It is quite incredible how ridiculous this system is. Not only do you need internet, you need a HIGH SPEED CONNECTION. Are they trying to kill PC gaming on purpose? It sure seems like it. I mean, as someone who buys loads of games, this completely kills any inclination I would have to buy any of their games.
How about an example: Ubisoft were one of the biggest Starforce supports several years back with such games as Splinter Cell Chaos Theory being infested by it and only dropped it after a massive outcry. Now, guess which Ubisoft games refuse to run on modern systems? That's right: Starforce games. Even the budget version was shipped with Starforce and of all games that won't run on Vista, 9 out of 10 either use Tages or Starforce.
Now, this will be even worse for the current DRM system: in 10 years time, it's unlikely this service will still be there. Second hand sales will be gone so finding a copy of a game after a few years will be next to impossible anyway so collectors get screwed. Of course IF they manage to find a new copy, it won't work anyway! Seriously, if this is where gaming is going, I'll just say "screw that" and stick to oldies. I already got enough games to last me two decades anyway and that's just for PC.
This hurts my head. Man, it just keeps getting harder to sell my old unused games. I've pretty much been turned into a console game player because of all of the protection issues. Now I just play GOG games and MMO's on the PC (and the occasional PC exclusive) and the rest I play connected to the T.V. Ubisoft, I here by dub thee Ubisuck.
Now having said all that I don't think that it would be a bad idea as an option for people if they housed the game on servers so you could download it and if they did something so your saves could travel with you. Just don't require it. Will they even still sell the discs? I was pretty annoyed when I bought the half life orange box and found out I was still having to download the game and I now had a useless chunk of plastic sitting on my shelf.
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drm haiku
the server is down
now it seems i cannot play
single player games
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glug: drm haiku
the server is down
now it seems i cannot play
single player games

LOL +1
Brilliant!
Brent Wilkinson (see article link in OP)--- ubisoft in the head if you think I'm buying that.
Post edited January 26, 2010 by Luned
People without high speed internet connections can't easily access and trade pirated material. Let's make sure our DRM blocks that group from playing because they're such a huge threat.
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Red_Avatar: How about an example: Ubisoft were one of the biggest Starforce supports several years back with such games as Splinter Cell Chaos Theory being infested by it and only dropped it after a massive outcry. Now, guess which Ubisoft games refuse to run on modern systems? That's right: Starforce games. Even the budget version was shipped with Starforce and of all games that won't run on Vista, 9 out of 10 either use Tages or Starforce.

Starforce is a joke. I downloaded and installed the free version of Trackmania from their website and tried to play it on my Vista machine. It wouldn't work unless I updated Starforce. I uninstalled the game but the "need new drivers" message kept popping up. I had to go to the Starforce site and download and install the Starforce removal software before the problem went away. I ended up downloading the game through Steam. I didn't get a Starforce message, but does that mean that Starforce isn't in the Steam version or that the game has the updated Starforce drivers? F-N pathetic to have DRM on freeware!
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jungletoad: People without high speed internet connections can't easily access and trade pirated material. Let's make sure our DRM blocks that group from playing because they're such a huge threat.

Haji shops in Iraq have tons of Pirated stuff I do not have high speed lol more like dialup, and yet I can go to the haji shop and pick up anything i need there, and hell even tell them what games/movies/tv shows I want...
Also... you seem to forget, places like Thailand, and South East Asia have pirated copies of tons of things on sale for 20bhat (less then 30cents)
Also.....Iran another country with not awhole lot of people with High speed internet they actually encourage their people to pirate US software
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trusteft: Yeah, and it's damn crazy. But according to EA's "research", most people don't care. Maybe they dont, I dont know. I've encountered a lot of people that say they dont, and obviously the success of Steam is a testament to that.
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chautemoc: But then again most of steam success stands on it's discounts and sales so great majority of games sold on steam are probably sold for less than 10 €/$. People tend to be more tolerant cheaper you sell the games but if they expect most pay full price for games with such restrictions they must be out of their minds. I for one have bought goty and trilogy boxed games from bargain bins for few € and thats the most I would pay for DRM infested crap and even then I crack them when ever possible.
Oh and what part of Ubis new system is not DRM excatly? It should say 'Ubisoft drops 3rd party DRM and introduces their own DRM".
Post edited January 26, 2010 by Petrell
I don't know...perhaps they want to exit the PC market and they are just looking for an excuse.
I wouldn't get hurt by such a move since I own all the consoles (apart from PSP which I sold last year), but I wouldn't like it either. My favourite FPSs remain Rainbow Six Vegas 1 and 2 and I am glad they are without any such restrictions.
For the future, if this continues I will simply not buy any more games publihed by Ubisoft with this DRM (no matter if they call it DRM or apple pie).
Too bad.
I was worried if this Uplay would be another GFWL or what... So they are two different things, this new drm and uplay.
Assassin's Creed 2 was the first game to ship with Uplay, right?
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"Q: Do you have to be a member of Uplay to use this service platform? A: This system requires you to have a Ubi.com account. A Uplay and a Ubi.com account are the same. You don't need to use Uplay to use this service platform, but if you wish to do so, it's very simple." - "The DRM platform will debut with the closed beta test of Blue Byte city-building strategy The Settlers 7"
This can't really strike anyone as surprising. I mean, EA has already been leaning in this direction with needing to log in to the community site to access any and all DLC.
And hasn't Blizzard said you will need to log in to their service to play Starcraft 2?

This is the way things are heading. Publishers aren't willing to release games DRM-free, and things like disc checks become increasingly irrelevant as more and more games are purchased digitally.
We really have to treasure gog..it is the alone island if sanity in the ocean of insane.