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Posted May 19, 2019
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i_hope_you_rot: I don't think JRPGs sell well on Gog . Maybe this is the reason why they refused this game.
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dgnfly: GOG refuses to even be upfront why they refused the massive list of other games that so-called didn't meet their standard.
This is most likely just some behind the scene agenda where we suddenly are subject to the taste of some unknown nobody at GOG who decided what we are and aren't allowed to enjoy. Like Crosmando said, I'm also pretty sick of GOG and their Childlike standards if they wanna be this way I'll get my games DRM free somewhere else.

I want the option to buy any game possible even the crappy ones if people here are too lazy to do research before they buy a game it's their own fault for being lazy. most whine only about we don't need crappy games here while disregarding the massive amount of broken or incomplete games on this storefront.

In my opinion, they can just act as a storefront and release the games they are offered or they can get their money from the casual gamers who in general barely buy any games anyways.
This will down the road hurt GOG as a storefront, when you reject a company like Xseed, XSEED.. and they release something good and decide to say fuck it to us and have it on steam only. even though it might be poop, GOG has allowed a lot of crap through the store.
Posted May 19, 2019
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DreamedArtist: This will down the road hurt GOG as a storefront, when you reject a company like Xseed, XSEED.. and they release something good and decide to say fuck it to us and have it on steam only. even though it might be poop, GOG has allowed a lot of crap through the store.
As I said in another thread: Making money is too niche for GOG nowadays

But you're right(jokes aside).......GOG is just going to alienate future/current devs and IP holders more and more over time.
Posted May 19, 2019
I hope GOG reconsiders about this rejection, they already have in the past.

Would buy this one day 1 and even the campy/trashy "Bullet Witch", if they would reconsider about that one, too.

Curation is a good thing. But curation for a TRUSTED publisher like XSEED is completely nonsense.

And the rejection of "Senran Kagura".... Yeah, DRM is not the problem (all games can be pirated/found online) and missing multiplayer is no problem for GOG either (the last 2K games).

So PLEASE get your stuff together GOG and stop curating publishers like XSEED. Thanks a lot. If you do not offer me games to buy, I cannot buy anymore. Sorry.
Post edited May 19, 2019 by Anime-BlackWolf
Posted May 19, 2019
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novumZ: Does anyone know if Senran Kagura series from Xseed games was rejected by GOG too?
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ReynardFox: In this case, no, GOG actually accepted Senran Kagura Shinovi Versus, but XSeed was unable to properly circumvent the DRM the developer used so just abandoned the whole thing.
Ah well that changes my opinion on the matter now.
I apologize for negatively speculating GOG team. I know you guys and gals work very hard. It's easy for us to place judgments on the internet but it is unfair towards you. Again; thank you all for your hard work and dedication towards drm free gaming community.
Best wishes and good health to you all.
Posted May 19, 2019
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I love the way the right wingers here scream about left wingers hijacking discussons, then do the same things themselves.
And , frankly, the gaming community suffers because women gamers...and there are a lot of them outhere..are mad uncomfortable by all the testerone crazed idiots who obviously have :issues: with women who are not totally submissive "babes'. And I don't even want to think what there sex lives are like......
Posted May 19, 2019
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Anime-BlackWolf: I hope GOG reconsiders about this rejection, they already have in the past.
This seems fitting, so I'll link it.
Posted May 19, 2019
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dudalb: I love the way the right wingers here scream about left wingers hijacking discussons, then do the same things themselves.
And , frankly, the gaming community suffers because women gamers...and there are a lot of them out there..are mad uncomfortable by all the testerone crazed idiots who obviously have :issues: with women who are not totally submissive "babes'. And I don't even want to think what there sex lives are like......
I can't speak for all men/male gamers, but:

1. Most "right wingers" here seem to be more upset that left wingers are trying to silence them/their opinions than that they are hijacking discussions.

2. The last bit you posted: Really? So does that mean any male gamer who wants such things(eye candy/mature themes) in their games isn't ok in your book, or that no female gamers(or those representing their interests) can be unreasonable when it comes to what some of them want/don't want in games?

Speaking as one of those "testosterone crazed idiots" you seem to dislike, I have to say we are less upset that women/others wants more media made their way BUT by how they try to get the media that is being made for our tastes to be changed/cancelled due to mob outrage and social shaming tactics. If they want their own media to enjoy then fine, but they shouldn't try to destroy or change what wasn't made for them in the first place.

(Also I find it a bit hypocritical that some women gamers/their advocates have less isue with MALE eye candy in games/media.)
Posted May 19, 2019
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SpellSword: Sadly it appears Necropolis ended up being removed from the GOG catalogue in the end due to a problem with the publisher. ( Info Link )

Was the Senran Kagura's multiplayer problem before GOG had Galaxy up and working?

Although not optimal I've read that some games have used it for their multiplayer when the steam multiplayer component is already embedded into the code as the connection method.

Not an optimal solution as the Galaxy client is not currently Linux viable and also it binds multiplayer to the client which is vexing for those who don't use it, such as myself.
I honestly don't remember, reason for which I didn't mention it, even more because there are more than one senran kagura on pc, and I don't remember which one was the GOG one.
I agree with you on the linux and MP being bound to the client.

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Buttspikes: Interesting, because we had the whackos in charge of Redout having similar issues and they still released the game here with the MP stripped out of the game and coercing the users with a "if sales are good enough we might think about it": we're small fries undeserving a decent release unless we spend enough for them to care to deliver the same stuff that they do elsewhere...

And oh wonderful world, instead of sticking to the one that tries to bring stuff, and keeps the stuff it can't bring properly from becoming a disastrous release by butchering it, GOG refuses it but allows those half arsed devs to bring here a game stripped of considerably important features...
EXACTLY! GOG should treat better XSEED, both because they do care about their GOG customers, and because we actually want their games!
Posted May 19, 2019
This video is from 2011 but if it is still accurate, my guess is part of the reason GOG turned it down for lack of animations and (I can't think of the right term) graphical "pizzazz"?.
Posted May 19, 2019
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fronzelneekburm: the near-constant rejections of actually good indie games.
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richlind33: I wish there were that many games that are actually good. : (
Well, I'm afraid it's gotten to the point where any given month gog rejects (or pointlessly delays) that one game I've been looking forward to and that would have been a Day 1 instabuy for me.

Underworld Ascendant - Nov '18 (rejected)
ATOM RPG - Dec '18 (finally released here after considerable delay, still waiting for Dusk)
The Hong Kong Massacre - Jan '19 (maybe dev didn't send it in, I dunno)
Grimoire - Early Feb '19 (rejected)
Devotion - Late Feb '19 (no idea, the dev seemed open to releasing their previous game on gog and now won't reply to mails regarding gog, the earlier game released DRM-free on Playism - I smell a rejection)
One Finger Death Punch 2 - Apr '19 (previous game got rejected, devs either didn't bother with gog this time or they got another rejection)
Detective Di: The Silk Rose Murders - May '19 (rejected)

PS: Every single Ancient-Red-Dragon post in this thread (and also PookaMustard's excellent summary) should be stickied. Or better yet: printed, put into a golden frame and hung in every last office at gog HQ.
Post edited May 19, 2019 by fronzelneekburm
Posted May 19, 2019
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tfishell: This video is from 2011 but if it is still accurate, my guess is part of the reason GOG turned it down for lack of animations and (I can't think of the right term) graphical "pizzazz"?.
Elminage Gothic isn't much better than this, still it's being sold on GOG.

But then again, maybe E:G is a very poor seller and that's the reason why GOG doesn't want any more JRPG-blobbers here? I don't know...
Posted May 20, 2019
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tfishell: This video is from 2011 but if it is still accurate, my guess is part of the reason GOG turned it down for lack of animations and (I can't think of the right term) graphical "pizzazz"?.
It must suck(for everyone in general) when the best answer we can find as to why GOG might be doing something is an old video from nearly a decade back. :\

(Thanks for looking that up, though.)

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tfishell: This video is from 2011 but if it is still accurate, my guess is part of the reason GOG turned it down for lack of animations and (I can't think of the right term) graphical "pizzazz"?.
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karnak1: Elminage Gothic isn't much better than this, still it's being sold on GOG.

But then again, maybe E:G is a very poor seller and that's the reason why GOG doesn't want any more JRPG-blobbers here? I don't know...
GOG also doesn't seem to want any games with overt mature themes and/or anything controversial(as with the games mentioned by some including Hatred.), as if hosting/selling such games would make them any less desirable to those already onboard the steam/epic train.
Post edited May 20, 2019 by GameRager
Posted May 20, 2019
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karnak1:
What about the other games in the Elminage series?
Posted May 20, 2019
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Sabin_Stargem: I used to ask developers on their forums about bringing games to GOG. I don't anymore, because I am certain that GOG is sleeping at the wheel or simply too ignorant to do things right. Look, I like the idea of DRM-free, but this curation nonsense is just plain stupid and poorly implemented at best.

What is the point of DRM-free, if there is not much on tap?
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SpellSword: Asking the developers directly has worked in the past.

I'm pretty sure that is why Wacky Wheels is now on GOG.
(A game which I purchased when it released on GOG.)

I do agree with you that I'd like to see more games available for purchase on GOG and not less.
There have been a number of devs that replied to my request, often saying that GOG rejected or simply ignored their attempts to get onto the store. The latter is even worse, as it implies that GOG simply isn't paying attention at all.

Aside from that, GOG has a history of being myopic about their procurement of games. For example, the refusal to get Super Meat Boy onto the store. They said that the market was already saturated with Super Meat Boy. The Binding of Isaac was later released, with a conspicuous absence on GOG.

GOG is pursuing short-term profit, at the expense of the store's future potential. Developers who may have been willing to give GOG a chance are dwindling, because GOG doesn't reciprocate.
Posted May 20, 2019
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Sabin_Stargem: There have been a number of devs that replied to my request, often saying that GOG rejected or simply ignored their attempts to get onto the store. The latter is even worse, as it implies that GOG simply isn't paying attention at all.

Aside from that, GOG has a history of being myopic about their procurement of games. For example, the refusal to get Super Meat Boy onto the store. They said that the market was already saturated with Super Meat Boy. The Binding of Isaac was later released, with a conspicuous absence on GOG.

GOG is pursuing short-term profit, at the expense of the store's future potential. Developers who may have been willing to give GOG a chance are dwindling, because GOG doesn't reciprocate.
As Others said here/elsewhere, it would seem(though we have no concrete proof that I am aware of) that GOG's curators are leaning more towards artsy/hipster casual indie games & modern games with little-no controversial material(overt sexual themes[especially towards women], anything that could be seen as x-cist/x-phobic, games made by devs with problematic pasts/beliefs, etc).

If that is indeed the case then it would explain many of the rejections(besides the ones who were either sh*t devs in general or the truly bad submissions).
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