amok: no - it is "your welcome"

so it is even yours

amok: I will have noun of that... I take back my welcome now, you can not have it anymore. It is "my welcome" now, not yours

amok: I will have noun of that... I take back my welcome now, you can not have it anymore. It is "my welcome" now, not yours

tinyE: On the next Sesame Street.

NFN: snip

NFN: The majority of internet users don't use forums anymore. You can see it everywhere. Also pointing to the wishlist doesn't change anything.

Ancient-Red-Dragon: IMO GOG's philosophy of viewing themselves as a "boutique" may well be a large contributing factor to its eventual demise, should they not change direction and entirely abandon that philosophy (which is exactly what they should do).

Literally nobody thinks to themselves anything like: "Time to go buy some 'luxury games' now at my GOG boutique!"

So from where do they take this ridiculous "we are a boutique" mandate? It's certainly not from their customers, which is the only source from whom taking it would make any sense.

GOG has not been profitable in the last of couple years. They literally - in terms of actual cash money dollars - can't afford to be elitest and/or think of themselves in any kind of self-aggrandizing/pompous sort of manner.

GOG needs to be courting as many devs as they can --- not alienating reputable ones with dubious decisions.

Kyousuke.: Stop trolling. This is not steam, in which most people think is the only place where to buy pc games. The majority of GOG userbase are mostly power users, or at least knowledgeable on what it means supporting drm-free and despise drm and other anti-consumer crap.

I can understand that the title is misleading, but people being vocal here is not related to it: heck, almost nobody cares is the game is "canon" or a spin-off, what to people here matters is the fact that many of us were really interested in this game, but GOG curation rejected it for unknown reasons, and from a publisher who is on REALLY GOOD terms with GOG and it's customers.

Should what you have said be true, Serpent would have been never been released on GOG, meaning that something is going on here.

Kyousuke.: Again, WRONG! Being vocal as much as possible here can make a change, other games seems to have been released here after being rejected, and it was because people have been vocal about them. You can't compare GOG customers to casuals or people who rent games on other stores and be done with them after they feel satisfied with them, otherwise nobody would be here in the first place.

Kyousuke.: Amen to that. GOG *needs* to rework on their curation system.

jaksjff1: No need to feed that NFN troll, he even admits to using an alt account for that 1 comment. They should just end the whole curation thing, when I bought my first GOG games (incidentally, Wizardry 6 7 8) there were like 600 games for sale. Now it's over 3000 probably. Maybe not open the floodgates like Steam, but maybe not rejecting games from known series & publishers.

NFN: Having said this I informed myself about the game. "Wizardry: Labyrinth of Lost Souls" has nothing (!) to do with the original series by Sir-Tech. It shares the same name but it looks and feels like an entire different series. The reviews are mixed. The hardware requirements are really high for a game that doesn't look anything special. It doesn't look anywhere convincing. I tend to understand GOG's decision to reject it. Probably I would have a different opinion here if there were some arguments for this game despite the flaws. But it is too late for this now. The same can be said about Grimoire.

Kyousuke.: Stop trolling.

jaksjff1: No need to feed that NFN troll

Kyousuke.: I did it mainly because I don't want to give new users here the wrong idea given by this troll.

dtgreene: Actually, this title's gameplay is derived from the earlier games in the series. You have the same 8 classes, the same 5 races (but with Hobbits renamed and Gnomes being very different stat-wise), the same segregation of MP by level system (but with an extra spell level of each type), the same revive failure mechanic (though the internal mechanics might not be the same)and other similarities. It's just that it branched off the earlier games in the series, and it took a different direction from what the main Sir-Tech series took.

For another implementation of this idea, check out Elminage Gothic, which actually *is* available on GOG.

(Interestingly enough, some of the Wizardry Gaiden games, starting with the third one, implemented the races and classes added in Wizardry 6, but still kept the core mechanics of the original games, creating a sort of "what if" game if different decisions had been made.)

NFN: I've just read this thread, "FCK DRM?", "Q: Is it safe for me to use GOG even if I'm anti-SJW?" and remembered the Grimoire threads. The group of very vocal people here should realize one thing. You are in a minority. You don't speak for the majority of users visiting this store. The majority of internet users don't use forums anymore. You can see it everywhere. Also pointing to the wishlist doesn't change anything.

I can understand that a game rejection is frustrating. But the modus operandi to get the games to this store is - to say it in a polite way - suboptimal. Do some people here really think that it is helpful to post messages full of aggression, hate, impudence, wild speculations, baseless arguments, conspiracy theories, nonsensical SJW vs anti-SJW crap, insults or discriminations? Do you really think someone from GOG will post anything about the decision in a thread where people are in attack mode? Instead of gaining more people (who are neutral) to support the addition of this game you achieve exactly the opposite. The behavior in this thread (and in the mentioned threads above) is off-putting.

Having said this I informed myself about the game. "Wizardry: Labyrinth of Lost Souls" has nothing (!) to do with the original series by Sir-Tech. It shares the same name but it looks and feels like an entire different series. The reviews are mixed. The hardware requirements are really high for a game that doesn't look anything special. It doesn't look anywhere convincing. I tend to understand GOG's decision to reject it. Probably I would have a different opinion here if there were some arguments for this game despite the flaws. But it is too late for this now. The same can be said about Grimoire.

I can only give one advice to some people here. Start with some self-reflection. This would be a good start to reduce the toxicity in this forums.

PS: The thread title is misleading. I actually thought that GOG rejected Wizardy 1-5. But it seems they are still in a licensing limbo.

*goes back to his actual account and lurking*

Ancient-Red-Dragon: IMO GOG's philosophy of viewing themselves as a "boutique" may well be a large contributing factor to its eventual demise, should they not change direction and entirely abandon that philosophy (which is exactly what they should do).

Literally nobody thinks to themselves anything like: "Time to go buy some 'luxury games' now at my GOG boutique!"

So from where do they take this ridiculous "we are a boutique" mandate? It's certainly not from their customers, which is the only source from whom taking it would make any sense.

GOG has not been profitable in the last of couple years. They literally - in terms of actual cash money dollars - can't afford to be elitest and/or think of themselves in any kind of self-aggrandizing/pompous sort of manner.

GOG needs to be courting as many devs as they can --- not alienating reputable ones with dubious decisions.

tinyE: Yes yes, I know.

Every time I get a low rated post I feel there is no point in going on.