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clarry: developers salaries here in Europe are miserable
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Plokite_Wolf: Oh?
In a few contries (south European mostly).
But otherwise, seems they are payed quite well.
Perhaps too much.
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Plokite_Wolf: Oh?
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OldOldGamer: In a few contries (south European mostly).
I'm from there, didn't hear anyone complain about this, apart from allegations of one single company. Must be just my uninformed student self :P
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People here constantly 'boycotting', moaning, 'doomsaying' and hating every change GOG does (be it for better or worse) are the only thing that affect my decision of spend my money here (and it's not all the time, gladly). It's 'tolerable' now but sometimes... ugh.
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ranhg: People here constantly 'boycotting', moaning, 'doomsaying' and hating every change GOG does (be it for better or worse) are the only thing that affect my decision of spend my money here (and it's not all the time, gladly). It's 'tolerable' now but sometimes... ugh.
That is true that the community, me included, is a bit negative on everything.
It is also true that GOG seems to be a bit business-averse, and they do changes that seems really rushed out or a bit careless.
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ranhg: People here constantly 'boycotting', moaning, 'doomsaying' and hating every change GOG does (be it for better or worse) are the only thing that affect my decision of spend my money here (and it's not all the time, gladly). It's 'tolerable' now but sometimes... ugh.
The constant pessimism of these changes is very annoying.
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ranhg: People here constantly 'boycotting', moaning, 'doomsaying' and hating every change GOG does (be it for better or worse) are the only thing that affect my decision of spend my money here (and it's not all the time, gladly). It's 'tolerable' now but sometimes... ugh.
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OldOldGamer: That is true that the community, me included, is a bit negative on everything.
It is also true that GOG seems to be a bit business-averse, and they do changes that seems really rushed out or a bit careless.
I agree.

The last apocalypse i remember was about the profiles, and all the fuss was justified, as long as i read, some people left GOG. But now, leaving because a redesign make you scroll down, or getting annoyed for the size of the 'buy' button is a bit dumb. There are countless things to worry about first.
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ranhg: People here constantly 'boycotting', moaning, 'doomsaying' and hating every change GOG does (be it for better or worse) are the only thing that affect my decision of spend my money here (and it's not all the time, gladly). It's 'tolerable' now but sometimes... ugh.
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Darvond: The constant pessimism of these changes is very annoying.
Changes that reduce functionality and user privacy (even if by oversight) are very annoying. The pessimism is with good reason, and it is important for users to stand up for themselves and their rights as consumers, not to mention it also gives feedback to GOG about the changes.
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But that what GOG misses.
Instead of improving what they have, what they have built, they go for a complete redesign.
Complete build up from scratch, instead of reach that stage step by step.

They even ask "Agile" in their careers CV, but the apprach is of complete mess.
They don't seems to follow a growth plan. They stumble on simple things an miss critical targets.

I don't intend to leave GOG for a bad UI, obviously.
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rjbuffchix: Changes that reduce functionality and user privacy (even if by oversight) are very annoying. The pessimism is with good reason, and it is important for users to stand up for themselves and their rights as consumers, not to mention it also gives feedback to GOG about the changes.
I'm game. Cite for both.
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rjbuffchix: Changes that reduce functionality and user privacy (even if by oversight) are very annoying. The pessimism is with good reason, and it is important for users to stand up for themselves and their rights as consumers, not to mention it also gives feedback to GOG about the changes.
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Darvond: I'm game. Cite for both.
Both what?
Yes. I don't want to reward them for their gimping bundles. And I'd have probably bought Stellaris except doing edition comparison is much harder now than it used to be.

EDIT: and I know it will in the future because the news is all hidden away and tiny, and only shows a couple items, so I'll be much less likely to notice something I want was added.
Post edited October 03, 2018 by mqstout
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rjbuffchix: Both what?
Both of the alleged issues; privacy and functionality.
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rjbuffchix: Both what?
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Darvond: Both of the alleged issues; privacy and functionality.
Functionality:
-removal of GOGmixes = objectively removing something useful that was there before.

-more scrolling, clicks, and page-loading to navigate 1. main page, 2. news, and 3. store = greatly reducing information and slowing down navigation of site. In other words, objectively removing something useful that was there before.

Privacy ("even if by oversight"):
-number of games were shown next to reviewer's name. I see from other topics that this has been fixed, at least for users who have their profiles set to be disabled. Somewhat alarmingly, for people with anything but the maximum, reading the other topic it is not clear to me that it has been fixed. In short, as with the profiles, information about users has been displayed without their consent.

*Post edited because one of my functionality issues I was going to put about finding the version of Windows that a game is compatible with essentially dovetails into the more general one about more loading to get to useful information. An man, if a user dare hovers over anything, it's like a video just can't wait to try and play.
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I've never really spent an awful lot of money here, mostly a few games in a big sale every now and again or something else I'm interested in when I have some spare money.
It's rare there is a deal so good that I think it's too good to pass up (like some Humble Bundles say) and buy it regardless.

As for whether the redesign will change that, I doubt it. I'm fairly sure nothing will change because I don't really care. I hardly ever look at the game pages so whatever changes they make make no difference to me. I can still read all the important information when I want to and look at screenshots so I'm happy.

If others wish to boycott GOG over a site redesign then good luck to them.
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rjbuffchix: Functionality:
-removal of GOGmixes = objectively removing something useful that was there before.

-games play on "Windows", no clarification if this includes all versions of Windows = objectively removing something useful that was there before.

-more scrolling, clicks, and page-loading to navigate 1. main page, 2. news, and 3. store = greatly reducing information and slowing down navigation of site. In other words, objectively removing something useful that was there before.

Privacy ("even if by oversight"):
-number of games were shown next to reviewer's name. I see from other topics that this has been fixed, at least for users who have their profiles set to be disabled. Somewhat alarmingly, for people with anything but the maximum, reading the other topic it is not clear to me that it has been fixed. In short, as with the profiles, information about users has been displayed without their consent.
The temporary removal of GOG mixes is not a large loss to the website. As I said on the other thread, they appear to be widgety lists of overtly specific criteria, while providing little information on why the games are there, in most cases.

As for the lack of OS clarification: I feel this streamlines the specifics down to a basic art. Rather than having to say what is supported, one can assume that as the public supports, so is GOG supporting. When Windows 7 support winds down, GOG will decide when to discontinue. MacOS is a mess of forced obsolescence, there is no choice. Linux is known for working whenever and wherever, so anything discontinued would just be long gone anyway.

Clicks? All you gotta do is hold down the Page Down key!