This is far more discussion than Borderlands ever justified.

Anyways, I throw out the concept of a game that is not a review score game, but only in the theoretical world where I'm not throwing out the concept of review scores.

What I mean is not colors but locations...there's a mine, caves, etc...not just one type of location. Also the colors were fine.....just because we have a billion color toolbox doesn't mean we need to splash a bit of every color in every game and make it look like some sort of child's technicolor fingerpainting.

Borderlands was kind of fun, but I think the main thing which drove me to keep playing after the first few minutes was the need to get as much stuff as possible.

It wasn't a bad game, it was just meh, it had it's moments, but I think it's a good thing that they didn't have the license to Duke from the start.

So as Scott Miller said, 2K sole it and gave it to Gearbox. Go Randy!

That's how it sounded to me, but then again I'm not privy to the details within the relevant sets of contracts. It did sound like it was questionable as to how the rights ended up being transferred.

EDIT: My main complaint with the demo was that the default keyboard and mouse control was stupid.

I don't think so, I think he knows people are gonna rate the game bad because some fools are gonna think "13 years of development = one of the greatest games in existence" not realising that we really have absolutely no idea how much of those 13 years of content has been saved, scrapped, edited (over and over again) or even rebuilt from scratch. This iteration of Duke Nukem and all its content could only have had 2 years development for all we know (not counting everything thats scrapped)

no, what he knows is that the game is flawed and probably too short. most of the content is scripted events (from what I have read about the demo) and titty jokes, that may be fine in Leisure Suit Larry but this is supposed to be a FPS.

... and it's a FPS that is going to be held up against Serrious Sam, not Duke 3D, and thats not a pleasant experience unless you got one hell of a game ... which they don't. Seeing as how this is Gearbox and 2K we can expect that there will be a shit ton of expansion packs, and no matter what the basic review can't be counted as the final product.

but thats both good and bad because while I like for games to be supported for years, I don't like to have to wait for years to get the whole game and I really don't like having to pay over and vier again to get it.

First off, most of the work that's in the game was done prior to Gearbox being brought in to clean it up for released. So, it's not unreasonable for him to want to point out that a lot of it might not be as well received as if his team had done it. That's natural, they didn't get to call the shots and as such don't want to take the blame if 3D Realms miscalculated.

Duke 3D is was smuttier than Leisure Suit Larry, I take it you haven't actually played it otherwise you'd remember the in game porn films and strippers, Leisure Suit Larry was pretty obscene at places, but he always got some sort of punishment for thinking about that stuff.

Additionally it's a valid point to mention that the fans aren't going to be happy with any reviewer that reviews the game based upon what they think 12 years worth of development ought to bring. It's not a fair metric especially given the number of times that they started over with a new engine.

And lastly, it's pretty clear that you've got some sort of inside information if you're claiming that the game is flawed, and yet you apparently haven't played the demo and are casting insults without even having played it. That's kind of low and not really a reflection of the sort of person that this game was meant for.

Game is gonna be good(my opinion), won't be too short(confirmed there are 20+ levels), Serious Sam is a knockoff of D3D/Duke & as such can go get bent(fact, plus opinion)........and titties are awesome at any age, unless you have a ball busting wife that is.

Oh yes, let's live in a world with 50 Transformers movies and no Godfather or Citizen Kane because that shit is too complicated or won't sell well. Go play your console...

When did he suggest that? Dude, Universal just had to fucking cancel the Cthulu movie because their finances have been so borked with them pumping out innovation over the years (Scott Pilgrim seemed to be the last straw for investors).

So yeah, he has a point and you're missing it.

Ad hominems? :\

He never said that so stop putting words in his mouth.

Serious Sam is awesome, don't dis it.

I didn't....just saying it should realize who's the King here. ;)

Hail to the King baby.