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Magmarock: Well, the developer got back to me and told me that he already tired to get the game published on GOG but that the game was rejected because one of the reviewers at GOG didn't like the game that much. This whole situation reminded me of another game that I inquired about a good while ago called Retrovirus. A Descent clone that is actually quite good but was also rejected for some reason.
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Strijkbout: Those games would fit GOG really well I think, though what the reasons behind rejection are we will probably never know. I'm not sure if it was because some tester at GOG didn't like it, if it is maybe GOG should reconsider their reviewprocess. On the other hand the developers might have had too high demands trying to squeeze GOG because they are on Steam already.
That's a good point. Which is why I'd like a little more transparency. Knowing why a game is rejected would go a long way in improving the relationship between GOG consumers and developers I think.
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Magmarock: Except ones that are fun that is.
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snowkatt: so your going to decide what others think are fun ?

alright then
It's not a decision it's just common sense. :P
Post edited November 18, 2014 by Magmarock
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Magmarock: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON AT GOG.

Whenever I ask GOG about rejected games they tell me that can't disclose such information.
"We only pick things that we think will make money here" was their response before to someone. So it's indeed some arbitrary choice to add things here.

They tell you to use the useless wishlist, then never release games with hundreds/thousands of votes and make deals for ones with 5-20 votes. If a game is released it has nothing to do with the consumers (wishlist), publishers, or quality of the product. It's as if their picks are based on a pet monkey who either runs up a tree with a game or throws feces on it. "We can't say why" my ass.

I don't expect any improvement in this area. GOG is still too small of a company to be serious about their catalog. Rarely able to get day 1 releases (3-6 months later...."We have this game from Steam!") among other problems. They don't even want those publishers until it's already successful on a Steam run.

I like the GOG platform, its ideas, as well as (most) of the community but its service leaves much to be desired. Even its support team has fallen in quality from what it used to be. And the zealots keep on mindlessly preaching "Well, if GOG says so then they know best". You're part of the problem of why we don't get more (and better) releases here -by letting the blues sit on their asses and give lame excuses while you throw money at them while being just as unmotivated.

It's a competitive market. GOG is not competitive and its community is complacent. Everyone's too loyalist and too afraid of downvotes to say what needs to be said. GOG is a service that can be improved and needs to start caring about what the community cares about. Right now they're hiding, reading topics like these from the shadows. No one is allowed to say anything for the company except "none of your business" and "this is my opinion alone". And that is quite a shitty state to be in for both them and us.

/chugs down a pint
...riiight welll i can make up my own mind thanks
I have played and enjoyed all 4 games. If gOg do not want my monies, frankly - it is their loss. I have no problems buying games from those who want to sell them. And that should be it, I think.
Hatoful Boyfriend and Wrack. ;)
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Snickersnack: Hatoful Boyfriend and Wrack. ;)
I have nothing against Hatoful Boyfriend and Gone Home. I'm just disappointed that other games aren't sold here.
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Magmarock: WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON AT GOG.

Whenever I ask GOG about rejected games they tell me that can't disclose such information.
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MaximumBunny: "We only pick things that we think will make money here" was their response before to someone. So it's indeed some arbitrary choice to add things here.

They tell you to use the useless wishlist, then never release games with hundreds/thousands of votes and make deals for ones with 5-20 votes. If a game is released it has nothing to do with the consumers (wishlist), publishers, or quality of the product. It's as if their picks are based on a pet monkey who either runs up a tree with a game or throws feces on it. "We can't say why" my ass.

I don't expect any improvement in this area. GOG is still too small of a company to be serious about their catalog. Rarely able to get day 1 releases (3-6 months later...."We have this game from Steam!") among other problems. They don't even want those publishers until it's already successful on a Steam run.

I like the GOG platform, its ideas, as well as (most) of the community but its service leaves much to be desired. Even its support team has fallen in quality from what it used to be. And the zealots keep on mindlessly preaching "Well, if GOG says so then they know best". You're part of the problem of why we don't get more (and better) releases here -by letting the blues sit on their asses and give lame excuses while you throw money at them while being just as unmotivated.

It's a competitive market. GOG is not competitive and its community is complacent. Everyone's too loyalist and too afraid of downvotes to say what needs to be said. GOG is a service that can be improved and needs to start caring about what the community cares about. Right now they're hiding, reading topics like these from the shadows. No one is allowed to say anything for the company except "none of your business" and "this is my opinion alone". And that is quite a shitty state to be in for both them and us.

/chugs down a pint
This is something I have feared for a a while. I always amused that GOG just sold the games they got the rights to, but now I'm suspicious that they are picking and choosing based on what someone on the inside personally likes.

This isn't good. No I have to question if a game on the wish list can't be obtained, or if someone just doesn't like it.
Post edited November 18, 2014 by Magmarock
Ehhhh, neither? I wouldn't touch a visual novel with a 10 foot pool (besides stuff similar to 999/Zero Escape), i find walking simulators boring and something tells me that i would play Wrack for half an hour and get bored.

Still, i would like to see some sales numbers from indie games on gog, considering that apparently some reviewer dictates who gets in or not then i would like to know if that method pays off...
Yup. Their selection process is kinda garbage.
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Magmarock: But what I would like to see is just a little input from the consumers...
The wish list is pretty much all there is for consumer input, and I'm OK with that. GOG has their system in place for how they select games, and it seems to work for them. I don't expect them to carry every game, and I don't have a problem buying from other vendors.

One thing to remember about the wish list, just because an item has several thousand votes doesn't mean that the developer/publisher have any interest in selling the game on GOG. I'm sure there are games out there that GOG would love to sell, but can't get the developer onboard.
Post edited November 18, 2014 by hummer010
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Magmarock: But what I would like to see is just a little input from the consumers...
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hummer010: The wish list is pretty much all there is for consumer input, and I'm OK with that. GOG has their system in place for how they select games, and it seems to work for them. I don't expect them to carry every game, and I don't have a problem buying from other vendors.

One thing to remember about the wish list, just because an other has several thousand votes doesn't mean that the developer/publisher have any interest in selling the game on GOG. I'm sure there are games out there that GOG would love to sell, but can't get the developer onboard.
or whose developers or publishers are dead

and the rights are tangled up in such a legal quagmire its almost undoable

or [erhap snobody knows who owns the rights or the rights holders are simply not interested

( wb doesnt seem to be interest in re releasing drakan and EA is not interested in re releasing blade runner then again blade runner is going to be difficult anyway )
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Magmarock: But what I would like to see is just a little input from the consumers...
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hummer010: The wish list is pretty much all there is for consumer input, and I'm OK with that. GOG has their system in place for how they select games, and it seems to work for them. I don't expect them to carry every game, and I don't have a problem buying from other vendors.

One thing to remember about the wish list, just because an item has several thousand votes doesn't mean that the developer/publisher have any interest in selling the game on GOG. I'm sure there are games out there that GOG would love to sell, but can't get the developer onboard.
Well that's just it isn't it. I'm not sure I trust it. I mean it could because GOG haven't gotten the rights, or it could be for other reasons. This is why I would like to know more about rejected games and what goes on behind the scenes.
At the end of the GOG is still just a store out to make a buck. Don't get me wrong, it's my favorite digital game store but it's still a store. They'll carry what they think will sell (not sure how they measure that to be honest) and they'll turn down games if they think they won't sell even if the game is great, like Salvation Prophecy, a fantastic Sci-Fi RPG-ish Mount & Blade style game. That's fine though, I was able to give Steam a few bucks and in return I got a really great game, the developer made some money and GOG didn't have to do any work on a game it didn't think would sell. GOG isn't the only digital games store out there and I'm okay with purchasing from other stores if need be.
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hummer010: The wish list is pretty much all there is for consumer input, and I'm OK with that. GOG has their system in place for how they select games, and it seems to work for them. I don't expect them to carry every game, and I don't have a problem buying from other vendors.

One thing to remember about the wish list, just because an other has several thousand votes doesn't mean that the developer/publisher have any interest in selling the game on GOG. I'm sure there are games out there that GOG would love to sell, but can't get the developer onboard.
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snowkatt: or whose developers or publishers are dead

and the rights are tangled up in such a legal quagmire its almost undoable

or [erhap snobody knows who owns the rights or the rights holders are simply not interested

( wb doesnt seem to be interest in re releasing drakan and EA is not interested in re releasing blade runner then again blade runner is going to be difficult anyway )
We're not talking about games that GOG can't get the rights to. We're talking about games GOG has chosen not to sell. ;)
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snowkatt: or whose developers or publishers are dead

and the rights are tangled up in such a legal quagmire its almost undoable

or [erhap snobody knows who owns the rights or the rights holders are simply not interested

( wb doesnt seem to be interest in re releasing drakan and EA is not interested in re releasing blade runner then again blade runner is going to be difficult anyway )
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Magmarock: We're not talking about games that GOG can't get the rights to. We're talking about games GOG has chosen not to sell. ;)
good for you
hummer010 and me were talking about games whose rights are tangled up
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NoNewTaleToTell: At the end of the GOG is still just a store out to make a buck. Don't get me wrong, it's my favorite digital game store but it's still a store. They'll carry what they think will sell (not sure how they measure that to be honest) and they'll turn down games if they think they won't sell even if the game is great, like Salvation Prophecy, a fantastic Sci-Fi RPG-ish Mount & Blade style game. That's fine though, I was able to give Steam a few bucks and in return I got a really great game, the developer made some money and GOG didn't have to do any work on a game it didn't think would sell. GOG isn't the only digital games store out there and I'm okay with purchasing from other stores if need be.
But I think there's a lot more opportunity to make extra cash but putting a few more games on the service. I for one am not happy with buying games that have any kind of DRM I recently moved into a new house with out no TV, phone or internet for a month. A nice little reminder for what I do and don't own.