One other thing that I want to explain about my drugs. I must use one drug each night (unless I have become a doctor), if I do not one will be chosen randomly for me. However, the drug may or may not interfere with the patients own power (rendering the original power void until the effect of my drug wear off). I tell this to intercept the question I would have had - "Why not just boost Vitek, as you know he is town doctor?". If I did it might take away his doctors powers, replacing it with the drugs, and I consider his power to be greater than what I can give.

Off course there is a risk in all this that I am boosting a scum player, or that my drug may cripple a town player, but I do not have much other choice, as a drug would be administered no matter what. At least like this I have some control over what effect is being used, and on who.

The voices now tell me to shut up, and to not tell you more, it is too much information already.

Yes, I can. You can be scum if you don't know that you are scum.

Because night actions clearly show that there is SK around, right?
Btw. even if there was SK, we would need to kill scum today to have chance to win.

Uh, you just said it yourself. I had more than 2 days to read it. I read posts of all surviving players except me and SPF (as I believed him to be town), so only 5 people. It is nothing so demanding as it is quite short game and most living people don't have many posts.

How many inconsistencies? Show me 2.
What am I pushing?

That's great news if true.
You need to shoot today.
It will confirm you and get us one more flip and it is quite possible you won't have other chance.
Does it end Day?
It will push us from mylo to lylo but it that's not much difference.
Why is Joker vig?

So you knew since the start of game that I/Lifthrasil am doctor?

Strangely enough, no. I knew there had to be a doctor, as I was a nurse, and I read what the role meant. But the identity (yours) was not revealed to me until the second night, I got a message about who I was supposed to assist (so I guess that means who the doctor is).

Before this you where very high on my list of suspects. I even suspected Krypsyn to be the doctor :)

Does not compute.
You say that you know you were town at the beginning of day 1, and that you are sure you have not switched to scum. Then you say that you can be scum if you don't know you are scum. Shouldn't one of the 3 be different? Either you know what you were on day 1 and don't know if you switched, since it is possible to be scum without knowing it, or you know what you were on day 1 and are sure you haven't switched since it's not possible to be scum without knowing you are one.
Let's call this inconsistency 0.5, shall we?

Sigh. I'm not talking about ingame role. I'm talking about your namesake. He was a serial killer. Did you not look up who you were supposed to be playing as?
Let's call this inconsistency 0.5 as well, for a total of 1 inconsistencies.


Ok, so at twilight you were convinced TB and Krypsyn were scum, then during the night you were convinced that not only were they town, but they were also worth protecting. So when did you send your night action? Are you willing to disclose that? Or is it "On September 17th, ~4 hours before deadline"?
I will claim this as a full inconsistency, since you did do a full 180 on what your reads were. Claim "Extensive re-read during a 2 day period" as much as you like, but I don't like that one bit.

You are pushing for lynches. Continuously.
First you go after SPF, even though you should know that a seasoned player wouldn't act like that if he was scum. You even asked us why were we not voting for SPF, and what were we thinking.
You then went after Krypsyn, accusing him of lying, which combined with LAL would mean a lynch. Once he showed that he wasn't lying, you turned your attention to CSPVG, giving a slight possibility that he is town, while presenting as much more possible him being scum. You also accused him indirectly of lying, since (having two cops) is something you can basically rule out in any game. .
CSPVG replies to your accusations, and has a bit of support from TB and Krypsyn.
Your next post?
More or less a "Sorry, couldn't post before. I think JMich is scum".

You do seem to be hunting for scum, but to me at least you seem to be throwing accusations to each one of us in turn, trying to see if you'll find support for your theory. You are also reluctant to vote for someone, even saying that Only reason why I am not voting you (except the fact I was missing) is because it was incredibly dumb. Too much to make it as scum. , even though that didn't stop you from hoping you had 2 votes to lynch SPF.

Let me also add the rest of your post.

Why does that seem to me as a "Here. Shoot this guy. We'll win if you do."
Using his ability will confirm to us he is a day vigilante, and we won't be worse than we were. Will we be better off? Yes, if he does shoot scum. Problem is that at this point, I can't point with certainity to anyone being scum, but I do find it highly probable that you are one.

So screw it, I will put my vote where my mouth is.

Vote Vitek

Or maybe it was just typo? Obviously It was supposed to be "can't" there. It makes no sense this way.

Is there any other serial killer that you said "one more"?
What is inconsistency? That I thought you are calling me SK? Seriously, what is inconsistent about it?

I don't care, at least I have some reads. ;-)

According to GOG I sent it on the 18th September and I recall it was late in evening and Zchinque was prodding me for it.
How does it help you? You won't believe it anyway.

So this 3, it's 0,5+0,5+1, right? So 2 inconsistencies. Even if we ignore that you made the 0,5 up they are from post made after you said that I am doing too many inconsistencies so you couldn't possibly mean them when you accused me of it.

You said I am too pushing during MYLO, what does SPF and other things from previous day have to do with it?

Oh, so you blaming for trying to move the game when we were twiddling our thumbs and were doing nothing?
Do you also remember the part when you said I am providing compelling arguments and later voted SPF yourself?

I also still can't wrap my head about why people want to ignore players who are too scummy. I think next time I am mafia I'll do anything that mafia shoudn't do and I'll get free pass to victory.

Don't give me this crap, I wasn't trying to lynch him based on LAL, I was trying to determine whether he is scum. I found that one post where he didn't say "I don't like" like he did in all others and I thought he slipped there.
You played with me in G15, you should know that I think LAL is crap and I am not exactly keen to lynch someone on its basis. On the other hand I would love to lynch someone because he/she is scum.

So by saying that I think he is probably town I pushed his lynch?
Oooooooooookay.

No, no, I accused him directly.
He claimed role that we already had, of course it's something I won't just ignore. Why would anyone ignore it? Would you ignore it?
He had support from TB and Krypsyn? Where? I found 1 Krypsyn's and 1 TB's post between my and CSPVG's posts and I see no support.

And? What does it have to do with anything? You are really grasping for straws now.

You basically just summarized most of my moves in this game and you slapped them with mafia sticker for any reason you managed to invent.

You are just trying to discourage anyone from finding scum as you label any attempt as throwing accusations.
"He seems to be hunting, but he is not. Why you ask? Because I said so and I KNOW!"

I am not voting because we are at mylo and need to be careful and because I think CSPVG might just make stupid town move instead of stupid mafia move and I haven't made up my mind yet.

I am not saying him who should his target be. Hell, he can target me if players want it. We all should decide his target together.
There are 3 scenarios:
He doesn't shoot. Then he is scum and it's win.
He shoots scum. Double win. We have confirmed player and dead scum.
He shoots town. Right now there are 6 players hiding 2 mafia. If he shoots town, there will be 2 mafia hidden among 4 people and the most scummy one will be removed. Much better odds than now.


One more thing. Who would you consider my buddy?

Even one more thing. Tell me, do you think your role is basically role cop? Because it certainly sounds a lot like role cop.


Sorry I made this long fragmented post but I am happy there is finally something going on.

That is a question only the mod can answer like a pro.
The Joker is, generally, a murderous bastard though.

As further proof of my Joker claim I point you to mY previous SPF queries,
as his Batman claim had me worried and consider many possible theories.
Just check post 418 where I made a breadcrumb at the start of the reply.
I was trying to subtly feel him out to determine if he were truly a bad guy.

Does you flavour provide some explanation?
I already checked that post. ;-)
I remembered it but wasn't sure how it was worded so I looked if your were breadcrumbing or asking him if he is Joker.
What about the rest?

It did, indeed, and I'll see what I can manage through my rhymes.
The message notes that I am a villain, intelligence and sadistic at times.
It also notes that I am a eccentric, goofy, and fairly lovable.
I'll think you will agree, these qualities are quite noticeable?
Oh, yes, it also mentions that I am a psychopath and quite murderous,
but all that is overblown and quite silly, so don't be too nervous.

I'd say our rhyming friend is one of the most prolific serial killers there is, isn't he?

Damned if I know. But the WIFOM does say that we have 2 people named after serial killers left. And Gollum was another killer, even if Smeagol wasn't. Is any of the other names claimed a killer, or is it another coincidence?

Not sure. You will have to ask Zchinque for it. So far I know that I got no reading on GhostQlyph and I got a "Double-Voter" reading on TwilightBard. You are the expert that knows what a (probably naive) cop would get on untargetable, you tell me if I'm a role cop.

And yes, I am ignoring the rest of your post. Picking specific parts can be used both ways, like your quotes.

Those are "Nah, he's a good guy, he wouldn't do that" comments. Feel free to say that you meant he's probably town. I still say you were (and still are) throwing mud around, trying to see what sticks.

You find power roles, yes you are role cop. Usual scum role.

I think I quoted your complete post word by word, only separated sentences and even left the order. You deliberately quoted only part of my post to completely change its meaning. Your example has nothing in common with my post.

I think we are done here, you're just flailing now.

So you didn't say this in 505?
Let me add the full quote then.

There. Is the above someone saying that CSPVG is town, or someone saying CSPVG is scum? Or is it someone that says "Well, I think CSPVG is town, but he could also be scum. Should we lynch him?" and wait to see reactions?

If you do think I'm scum, vote me. Or remain with
"Hey, I think X is scum. Shall we vote for him? Eh? Eh?
No? :( Ok. How about Y. He is scum, right? Shall we vote for Y then?"

This is what I see you doing.

You never played with me did you?
You should know my playstyle by now.

Your last paragraph might sound amusing but it is only fiction as I never did anything like that her.

Anyway, do not think I am not aware of deflection from you to me you are doing here.
You smelled opportunity after my claim and I understand it, it's probably your only way out.


TwilightBard, can you demonstrate your double voting ability?
Only on different people, though, do not place 2 votes on one person or vote against someone who is already voted to prevent speedlynch.

Sure.

Vote Amok, Vote Krypsyn

Neither have votes that I'm aware of (and I quickly checked through from the last votecount), so they should be fine.

Votecount!

CSPVG - 1 - amok
Vitek - 1 - JMich
amok - 1 - TwilightBard
Krypsyn - 1 - TwilightBard

Not voting: Vitek, Krypsyn, CSPVG

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch

Deadline in roughly 6 days.