I didn't call you out, I called Vitek out. See when he started asking you if you were neutral.

Ahh, I see, I thought you meant amok called me out.
Pronoun confusion on my part, no doubt. :(

Honestly, I agree with Vitek here.
He was merely questioning a peer.
For, amok just assumed I was town.
Vitek didn't think I claimed that crown.
I hope this makes my stance more clear.

Watcher works only when action is submitted on sunday, kill doesn't work if player wear blue pants and Quadr's death had nothing to do with Ghost's.
See? I can claim game rules as well.

You are not arguing with me here, you are arguing with game mechanics.

Then explain why and propose better course of actions.


Which scum aligned role gives townie points?
Yes, kill-shot highly increases chance for player to not be mafia aligned. Your point?
Also get your timeline straight. I first realised Krypsyn is probably not town and only after that you said I assume he's town. So no, I didn't change it to town or neutral after you called me out on it.

You haven't "called me out" before, you just mentioned it. ;-)
OK, humour me. Let's say you have name of killer and someone else mentions there are 3 players anmed after killers. How do you respond to it?
I can''t use it anymore anyway so there is no harm in sharing with me.



I think we are quite close to deadline (4 days?) and with pace we are going we won't achieve anything.

I would like everyone to say in their next post whether he/she agrees with vigging today or not.
If he does I would like to know who should be target, with at least short explantion if possible.
If he doesn't, I would like explanation why not and what do they propose instead.

Thanks.

Let me first point out that on post 559 I say that having Krypsyn do a day vig only confirms him as day vig. Your next post still considers Krypsyn town.
But no, feel free to say I call you out much later.

At MYLO/LYLO? Finding as much evidence as possible about the attacker. Then let the others decide.
At not MYLO/LYLO? With flubbucket's proposed defense from his first (or was it second) game. Do nothing. Give the scum enough rope to hang himself.

So you are asking us to vote for vigging. I do agree that we should have a vigging, but I'd rather have Krypsyn decide for himself. Main reason for that is that I'm still unsure whether Krypsyn is scum or not, and having players suggest someone to kill does allow any scumbuddies to point fingers and say "Kill him, it doesn't give us much information, it only verifies you as town."

Good for you. Now, which watcher do we have in this game?
How do you verify that the player wore blue pants when he did the kill? Was it when the kill is done or when the kill is submitted?
QuadrAlien was lynched with the same majority that lynched GhostQlyph. While it is possible that any lynch will result in a doublelynch, due to the name connection it is unlikely.

As for arguing game mechanics, I'd like to point out that the last quote of yours is basically saying that because so far you haven't seen any such game mechanics, such game mechanics cannot exist. Is that appeal to tradition or appeal to common practice? What about lynching the mod? Do game mechanics allow you to do that? Would not lynching the mod mean that it's harder for scum to win, since for this game the mod was a townie?
Or is it possible that Zchinque's game follows Zchinque's rules, and not the standard ones?


Waiting for Krypsyn to shoot someone.

OK, right.
So I at first thought it will confirm him as town and later I realised he probably is not town but neutral. And that makes me satan or what?
It doesn't change the fact that we can use it no matter his alignment and that vig shot is very unlikely for scum.

So I did what you presented as option no. 2 but because we are at mylo I should have instead tried to find evidence against you to prove you are scum for once mentioning that there are 3 players with killer name?
M'kay... I guess.

So because you think he could be mafia you want him to decide target himself instead of going with consensus of 6 players, 4 of them non-mafia?
How is mafia choosing his shot himself better than carefully picked target by all players?

Sorry, my bad.
I meant if target wears blue pants.
I apologize, this shouldn't happen.

Common sense and experience.

Lynching the mod? I guess mechanics would allow it to me if it didn't happen already. I don't follow.

Call me naive but this is game of forum mafia and I somehow expect it to follow basic rules of forum mafia games. Like consistency in player targeting and stuff.
I know, I know. Silly me, I should expect exact opposite. It makes every game easier.

Anyway, on more serious note, if what you are trying to dispute was true, then it would be the extreme case of bastard moddery and that's something what shouldn't happen and you can't count with it at all. It would mean we are playing game without roles and it is kind of hard to do. It is not something players should take as possibility when they are trying to explain what is happeneing in game and it is much more sensible to expect that game is within some boundaries and actions can be explained by normal means.
Taking bastard mod as probable explanation to events certainly does not help town and it is way to dismiss any accusation.

Proof that Gollum is not mafia with me.
I would never allow him on my team.

You need to see it all to understand.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but I think we need to decide which player Krypsyn should use his vig powers on. Having said that, I'm not entirely sure who to pick.

My primary choice at this point in time would be either Vitek and JMich. This, however, is based on little more than a niggling feeling that one of them has to be a mafioso.

Finally, does anyone think that GhostQlyph may have been on to something in suspecting amok for some of his/ her comments?

So my choice is either CSPVG or JMich.
CSPVG's JMich or me.
Krypsyn's JMich.
Twilight's CSPVG or JMich.
JMich's is JMich.
Amok seem to be against shooting.

So it's 5 votes for JMich, 2 for CSPVG and 1 for me.

I think you can go ahead and shoot JMich, Krypsyn.


@CSPVG; amok is third on my scum list after you and JMich and if JMich flips scum he will be no. 1.

Love your votecount. You may want to recheck it.

And yes, another "honest mistake". Too many of those for my liking.

I don't see any mistake.
Could you point me to it?

Who am I voting for?
Who votes for you?

What does it have to do with it?
It has nothing to do with votes but only with who players chose as vig target.

Sigh. Let me quote your post again.

You say that I choose me as a shooting target. You also say that one person chooses you as a shooting target. So, 1) I'm not choosing myself as a shooting target, I'm choosing you as a shooting target, and 2) see 1).

Is this a bit more clear now? May I also ask where you got the other people's choices from? Where they from the same place you got mine?

Up until now you never, not even single time, said you want to shoot me.

I asked people about target before and you told me that you are "waiting for Krypsyn to do the shooting." and later when I asked you for better course of actions, you ignored it and said that you are "waiting for Krypsyn to shoot someone."
So I just assumed you approve of my and Krypsyn's target when you said he should choose himself and ignored my appeal to suggest better targets.