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Aye. Nice to meet you folks. I'm Basil the Lifter from Australia. We don't even have Fascists over there. Just a few monarchists, but they aren't dagenrous ... Well, there are some crackpot Nazi-sympathisers, but no one takes them serious and anyone in power or a position to become a delegate to a council like this is a freethinking liberal. So I will do my best to push as many liberal agendas through as I can. Let's make sure that those Fascists remain an unimportant footnote in history like they are back home in Australia.
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greeklover: Welcome to the council! Please take your seats, I have excellent news:D I am the president and I am liberal. Now, who to make a chancellor? If I choose at random, there's a 5/9 chance to pick a liberal. Or you can tell me who I can trust.
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supplementscene: While I congratulate you on your election win Greeklover, you like all leaders will be judged by our liberal majority on your policy decisions. We liberals must fight back the fascist agenda at every turn. If you pick me as chancellor I will stride to pick liberal policies at every opportunity and discussing these policies openly as open government is the hallmark of liberty.
Remember the no-edit rule.
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supplementscene: While I congratulate you on your election win Greeklover, you like all leaders will be judged by our liberal majority on your policy decisions. We liberals must fight back the fascist agenda at every turn. If you pick me as chancellor I will stride to pick liberal policies at every opportunity and discussing these policies openly as open government is the hallmark of liberty.
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ZFR: Remember the no-edit rule.
It was a grammatical edit but fair enough
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ZFR: Remember the no-edit rule.
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supplementscene: It was a grammatical edit but fair enough
Happens to me also quite often that I mistype (damn phone keyboard)... Learn to live with it :)
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ZFR: Remember the no-edit rule.
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supplementscene: It was a grammatical edit but fair enough
Not gettin modkilled should be more important than correcting grammatical errors. Unless, of course, you are a (grammar)-Nazi!

Also take care not to post two posts too quickly after each other. Otherwise the stupid GOG forum software will merge those two posts and it will look like an edit. So either wait 10 minutes or more or for someone else to post something, before posting the next post.
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kusumahendra: Forgot to say. I'm a liberal

No one can be Facist and Boss around for long. Not in New York.

Now people, who do you think is suitable to be Chancellor? I'd like to know what everyone's thinking before giving out my vote
More importantly: the President should make his choice before you give out your vote! You can't vote before there is something to vote on! - Perhaps you aren't that familiar with how this liberal, democratic system works because you would prefer a fascist dictatorship, huh?

But gut feeling aside we don't have much to go on in this first round. We'll have to judge everyone by the policies they pass. For starters we'll just have to hope that the President chooses well - and is in fact liberal minded himself.
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Lifthrasil: ... Unless, of course, you are a (grammar)-Nazi!
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Cute :)
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ZFR: Remember the no-edit rule.
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supplementscene: It was a grammatical edit but fair enough
I'm only picking on supplementscene here because he happened to be the first one to make an edit. The standard mafia players already know this, but I'll make it extra clear for the newbies.

No editing means Do Not Edit. Not for grammar, not for misspellings, not if the forum software turns your post into some weird-boop unreadable mess of html tags (yes, this has happened, and no, we don't always allow to go back and 'fix it'. Just post again to say whatever you were trying to say (after the 10 minute time elapses)), and especially not for content (editing for content is definitely grounds for instant mod-kill). What you say remains said, for better or for worse. Do any proof reading and redacting you want to do BEFORE you hit that "Post my message" button (or equivalent, if you have BE).

The rule against double posting exists solely because of the forum software. If you make two posts within 10 minutes of each other, and they are consecutive posts in the thread, then the forum software will merge them into one post and mark that post as edited. We do NOT want to see that edit tag, so avoid double posting. Yes, you do need to wait 10 minutes to post That One Really Good Thought You Had Just After You Posted; console yourself with the thought that it has happened to pretty much all of us at one point or another.

If you can manage to double post without trigger the edit tag, then I guess you are free to double post to your heart's content.

If you are having a hard time living with some problem in a post, then you may contact the mods to request a 1-time exception to the edit rule. DO NOT edit the post before you have permission in hand, or you may end up dead.

And if you want to be mod-killed, then just ask for a replacement. You don't need to break the rules in a spam fashion.

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And while I'm thinking about it, let me emphasize this: do not talk about the game outside the game thread. Not in the admin thread, or another forum, or whatever. Do not PM other players (or observers) about it.

First rule of Mafia (or Secret Hitler, in this case): Don't talk about Mafia (or Secret Hitler, in this case).

The one exception: you are free to PM the mods with thoughts and (especially) your questions. We may or may not answer the questions (for example, we aren't going to answer "Is player X a fascist?"), but feel free to ask. If you don't understand a rule, then please ask sooner rather than later.
Hey, we are finally on! That's my queue to read them rules :D

By the way, is there a reasonable explanation on how each and every post until one point is high rated (not that it's not deserved and all but it's the first time I see such a thing in a "casual" thread)?
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dedoporno: Hey, we are finally on! That's my queue to read them rules :D

By the way, is there a reasonable explanation on how each and every post until one point is high rated (not that it's not deserved and all but it's the first time I see such a thing in a "casual" thread)?
A bot first turned our posts into "low rated" but then this was reversed.

So we are almost full, just waiting for the Count to make a fashionably late entrance to the party:p
Typical for nobility to arrive late!
Oye... Dedo, famoso capitán de la "Bruja Marina".

Despite I learned speaking Spanish in Naval Academy for 5 years and having a name that makes almost everyone make a wrong guess about my origin I'll switch to a more global tongue and continue addressing the gentleman and ladies here in a more common tongue.


Right. That was a long read just to find out the fluff isn't that important :D

Anyway, it might be a bit early for such questions but I prefer to be informed from the get-go and I do think this is better asked here rather than in PM so others who may be as confused as I am benefit from whatever clarifications.

I don't fully understand how the presidential powers work:

Does each one come on a Policy card and the President has to activate the one on the enacted policy?

Or does the President has some sort of choice from a larger pool?

I don't thing I get how the Special Election works - the President gets to nominate a potentially "forbidden" candidate but a vote is still on afterwards and that candidate candidate's government can be shut down in the normal way?


"After a Special Election, the President placard returns to the left of the President who enacted the Special Election."

I don't understand what the italicized bit is saying. Does it mean that the Special election can jump count from player #2 to player #5, but after their term is over the next one in line is #3 because of the original order? What if #5 calls another Special Election (if that is possible, at all)?
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dedoporno: I don't fully understand how the presidential powers work:

Does each one come on a Policy card and the President has to activate the one on the enacted policy?

Or does the President has some sort of choice from a larger pool?
The presidential power comes with the policy card (the one that was enacted). President has no choice; he must use that one.

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dedoporno: I don't thing I get how the Special Election works - the President gets to nominate a potentially "forbidden" candidate but a vote is still on afterwards and that candidate candidate's government can be shut down in the normal way?
Yes, exactly. The next president is out of turn, but otherwise it proceeds as normal.

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dedoporno: I don't understand what the italicized bit is saying. Does it mean that the Special election can jump count from player #2 to player #5, but after their term is over the next one in line is #3 because of the original order? What if #5 calls another Special Election (if that is possible, at all)?
Yes. Not sure if 5 can call another special election, but if so then turn goes from 5 to the new president, after which it goes back to 3.
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dedoporno: Does each one come on a Policy card and the President has to activate the one on the enacted policy?

Or does the President has some sort of choice from a larger pool?

I don't thing I get how the Special Election works - the President gets to nominate a potentially "forbidden" candidate but a vote is still on afterwards and that candidate candidate's government can be shut down in the normal way?


"After a Special Election, the President placard returns to the left of the President who enacted the Special Election."

I don't understand what the italicized bit is saying. Does it mean that the Special election can jump count from player #2 to player #5, but after their term is over the next one in line is #3 because of the original order? What if #5 calls another Special Election (if that is possible, at all)?
1. I'm not sure exactly what this question is asking. If you look at this image here:
https://i.imgur.com/uR4vj0B.jpg
you can see the draw pile to the left of the liberal policy board. The president will draw 3 cards, discard one in secret, and then pass the remaining 2 to the chancellor. The chancellor will discard one of those in secret, and reveal the other one, placing it on its appropriate board to pass it.
Edit: Now that I understand what you meant, it's as ZFR says. The president doesn't pick a power from a pool, he has to go with whatever the policy card covers on the board (the board will be filled up from left to right).
2. The special election allows the president to pick the next president directly, from anyone on the table. Usually the role of president just goes clockwise (in the case of this forum game, that means down the list of players) after a turn's over (a turn being either a proposed government being rejected or one being accepted and them enacting a policy). This can be important because if a fascist policy is passed, whoever's president when it's passed will get the power activated by it. Depending on the card count in the draw pile, this could be absolutely crucial, since the next fascist policy allows for the president to execute somebody, not to mention that after this point, if the chancellor is Hitler, the fascists win!
3. That's exactly what it means. Another special election can't be called, it only activates as a one-time thing when the third fascist policy is passed.

Edit: ZFR pretty much beat me to it and explained it nicer.
Post edited April 04, 2018 by zeogold
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zeogold: Edit: ZFR pretty much beat me to it and explained it nicer.
No. Editing. Means. No. Editing.