CURRENT PROPOSED GOVERNMENT

President: Boss Kusu (kusumahendra)
Chancellor: Captain Dedo (dedoporno)

Finally I manage to get this post in before any of you have voted. Now, come forth and vote!

Interesting choice. Care to explain your reasoning?

Not much really. Dedo cleared Brasas. If I can be sure of dedo them I know two liberals

Seems to be a big IF. And IF you are wrong, we are at 3F and one mistake with Hitler and we lose without a draw of the cards. Furthermore, it would prove nothing about Brasas.

And frankly, who cares now about being sure of liberals. One more policy and we win...and find out all of them...

Voted no. If we are going to try something, we need at least Lift as president to confirm the draw.

A bit pointless. How do you suppose you can be sure of dedo? The only way he could prove himself is by passing L, if you give him one. And then the implications about Brasas are moot, since we then would have won the game. So this nomination carries a lot of risk for no gain. We're past the stage of testing someone. All we need to do is get that last L policy passed.

Won't pass anyway. If everyone's voting NO, I'll vote a symbolic Yes since I owe kusu a yes vote for last time.

Lift, whom are you going to pick? Brasas? If we're passing the presidency to you, maybe you should pick a chancellor now, since I don't want to be put blindly in a situation where it's either X or chaos.

You don't have to answer to Zfr. Fascists will see the answer and adapt their game.

This is not acceptable behavior for a liberal. Votes are important and you don't know the result upfront so you can't just say that you cast a symbolic yes. On top of that, an unreasonable yes vote can be seen as a sign from a fascist to reveal himself to Hitler.

As opposed to your suggestion to Lift above? It's acceptable Liberal behaviour to pass the vote blindly to Lift so he can say "Gotcha! I'm nominating dedo! Now vote for me or the alternative is chaos".

I knew you would say that.
If liberals don't trust Lift at this point, we can't go forward with speculations. So they should choose.

Quite surprised you guys even think about it. I thought this would be voted no automatically. As I said, I don't think much when I pick dedo as Chancellor because I assume it will be voted down

@zfr you don't owe me anything really. You voted me no and I do too. In my book we're even :)

@greek: yes, Fascists can adapt to what Liberals write. But still most of the time I feel it is better for Liberals to be open and discuss almost everything. We have the advantage that we CAN communicate openly. The Fascists, if they want to communicate in this game, have to find some way of doing so hiddenly. Most of the time it pays to put all the liberal ideas and arguments out there openly - and let the fascists cook up ways to contradict. Sometimes, of course, they will successfully adapt and give seemingly good arguments. But sometimes they make errors and reveal themselves by making too contrived arguments against a liberal choice.

But the problem is, I actually can't even answer yet. Like I discussed with RW, I can't choose Greek, so Brasas would be the obvious choice. But I am open for suggestions if they come with good arguments.

You could try Zfr so that I can assassinate him later, that would be fun! But noooo, why waste a L?

Brasas where the hell are you? You left me here to battle with Franco and Ciccio and you are enjoying the show.