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rtcvb32: You mean with the proprietary parallel cable and external device? Yeah that was really bad... Internal ones weren't bad though.
I mean the archiving software as well. Maybe I was using it wrong, but making a spanning backup was a pain in the buttocks. And it seemed so slow. But perhaps that's just my memory colouring the experience.
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Enebias: one of the "biggest" wishes of the community is becoming reality.
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rtcvb32: I hope steam doesn't start trying to sell off similar games and genres; Like when they noticed GoG was actually making money off old titles...
I'm pretty sure they will. They have the means to crush any kind of competition, so they will surely try to. They are already doing this with the same old games GOG is selling since the beginning, with a condiment of "accidental errors" like applying a bigger discount to The Witcher 3 pre-order the day it launches... and the enslavement of all the other stores, so I really don't see why they would hold back on this.
Post edited September 05, 2014 by Enebias
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rtcvb32: I hope steam doesn't start trying to sell off similar games and genres; Like when they noticed GoG was actually making money off old titles...
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Enebias: I'm pretty sure they will. They have the means to crush any kind of competition, so they will surely try to. They are already doing this with the same old games GOG is selling since the beginning, with a condiment of "accidental errors" like applying a bigger discount to The Witcher 3 pre-order the day it launches... and the enslavement of all the other stores, so I really don't see why they would hold back on this.
Unless GOG has secured some kind of exclusive deal with Cloanto. Or just bought them outright (unlikely as that may be).
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are you freaking kidding me? The date on that post is August 20 2012. What the heck have gOg been doing those 2 years?

Timpuu asked me the other day why I do not say so much positive about gOg... don't get me wrong, I am pleased as punch that we get Cinemaware here and Amiga versions (hopefully), but really... and it was not even their effort....
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Enebias: I'm pretty sure they will. They have the means to crush any kind of competition, so they will surely try to. They are already doing this with the same old games GOG is selling since the beginning, with a condiment of "accidental errors" like applying a bigger discount to The Witcher 3 pre-order the day it launches... and the enslavement of all the other stores, so I really don't see why they would hold back on this.
Maybe... but people on steam are wanting new games, games in 3D, games that have lots of eye candy and effects... I would say it's the wrong crowd and they won't sell too many, but i can only guess... Not that it costs anything to hold onto a digital library vs physical content.

Valve just annoys me...
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Enebias: one of the "biggest" wishes of the community is becoming reality.
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rtcvb32: I hope steam doesn't start trying to sell off similar games and genres; Like when they noticed GoG was actually making money off old titles...
I say it before and I say it again - Steam do not care very much what they sell. It is the publishers who notice that there is a market for classics and starts pushing them on as many store fronts that they can. And it is a good thing - classics gets more visibility and more people get to experience them.

People keep complaining about Steam becoming a monopoly on new games - but you seem to want gOg to be so...
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IronArcturus: Nice! I've always wanted to try Amiga games! Has there been a set release date?
The article, which is from today, says:
As soon as the games appear on GOG next week, we will let you know.
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rtcvb32: Maybe... but people on steam are wanting new games, games in 3D, games that have lots of eye candy and effects... I would say it's the wrong crowd and they won't sell too many, but i can only guess... Not that it costs anything to hold onto a digital library vs physical content.

Valve just annoys me...
True, but let's be sincere: trying to obtain the Amiga games would be an excellent investment. If it goes well, sales will improve; if it turns out bad, it would still cause damage to the only serious competitor they have. Win-win situation.
Were I an *evil* corporate manager, I would do just that.

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IAmSinistar: Unless GOG has secured some kind of exclusive deal with Cloanto. Or just bought them outright (unlikely as that may be).
Call me pessimist, but since contracts of exclusivity do not last forever, there will always be a chance for Valve.
If GOG bought them, on the other hand... well, I could only say: "good job"! ;)

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amok: People keep complaining about Steam becoming a monopoly on new games - but you seem to want gOg to be so...
Personally, I don't want GOG to take the place occupied by Steam, neither I wish the latter to disappear: I would simply like to see NO monopolies what-so-ever. I often attack Valve not much because I despise their methods (something I surely don't deny, btw), but because they *already* have an undisputed monopoly over almost any kind of videogame - Amiga being one of the few exceptions. This is *always* detrimental for everyone - except the monopolist, of course.
Post edited September 05, 2014 by Enebias
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amok: People keep complaining about Steam becoming a monopoly on new games - but you seem to want gOg to be so...
Just feels like a certain selling point goes away when Valve muscles in to make more profits. I want to think of it more like physical stores where there are some stories that sell a bit of everything, but quite a few are specialized stores. Just because a store sells alcohol doesn't mean they hold a monopoly, but they concentrate on one or two specific aspects of it rather than trying to sell everything. Part of that is economy, location, population type and density, etc. Walmart could muscle in and sell whiskey too if they really wanted to, but they don't.

Each store sorta has it's own theme of what makes them special. Steam just wants to blanket it all and try to be the monopoly. If GoG holds the monopoly for old games, would that really be bad?

Hmm maybe i'm thinking it the wrong way. I'm thinking more like Microsoft, who after see a product come out say 'oh, we were just going to release something like that too', do it and then squash smaller companies not letting them get any firm footing. As i recall there are lawsuits that happened to make sure Microsoft didn't include Internet Explorer or other features on the Windows discs for the UK and overseas so other software companies would have a chance to sell and offer their software without M$ just crushing everyone in their own software...
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amok: People keep complaining about Steam becoming a monopoly on new games - but you seem to want gOg to be so...
Was this a typo? Whatever adjectives you use about Amiga games from the late 80s to early 90s, "new" should not be among them.

I think his point was precisely about old games. Steam already has a de-facto monopoly (near enough) on new games, he just doesn't want them to extend that monopoly to old games too. And let's face it, all it takes for Steam to cover at least 90 percent of the market for any given game, is to make it available.
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Enebias: Call me pessimist, but since contracts of exclusivity do not last forever
And yet somehow i doubt i'll ever see Dark Cloud 1 or 2 ever move away from the Playstation, unless it's somehow related to Playstation Now...
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amok: People keep complaining about Steam becoming a monopoly on new games - but you seem to want gOg to be so...
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Wishbone: Was this a typo? Whatever adjectives you use about Amiga games from the late 80s to early 90s, "new" should not be among them.

I think his point was precisely about old games. Steam already has a de-facto monopoly (near enough) on new games, he just doesn't want them to extend that monopoly to old games too. And let's face it, all it takes for Steam to cover at least 90 percent of the market for any given game, is to make it available.
no, not a type, but left out a bit at the end. - "for old gaems"

there is a double standard - complaining that someone have a monopoly, but wanting someone else to have one.
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amok: are you freaking kidding me? The date on that post is August 20 2012. What the heck have gOg been doing those 2 years?
Evaluating each Amiga title on whether it's worthy of the gog based on MobyScore, MobyRank, Wishlist vote count and TETs hunch? Waaait a minute...
Don't even get me started.
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Fever_Discordia: Maybe they won't be - maybe they'll just include the Amiga disk images with the DOS versions as bonus content and it's up to you what you do with them
That is very likely....

Nevertheless - Cinemaware on GOG=best piece of news I saw here for a long time :-P
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amok: People keep complaining about Steam becoming a monopoly on new games - but you seem to want gOg to be so...
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rtcvb32: Just feels like a certain selling point goes away when Valve muscles in to make more profits. I want to think of it more like physical stores where there are some stories that sell a bit of everything, but quite a few are specialized stores. Just because a store sells alcohol doesn't mean they hold a monopoly, but they concentrate on one or two specific aspects of it rather than trying to sell everything. Part of that is economy, location, population type and density, etc. Walmart could muscle in and sell whiskey too if they really wanted to, but they don't.

Each store sorta has it's own theme of what makes them special. Steam just wants to blanket it all and try to be the monopoly. If GoG holds the monopoly for old games, would that really be bad?

Hmm maybe i'm thinking it the wrong way. I'm thinking more like Microsoft, who after see a product come out say 'oh, we were just going to release something like that too', do it and then squash smaller companies not letting them get any firm footing. As i recall there are lawsuits that happened to make sure Microsoft didn't include Internet Explorer or other features on the Windows discs for the UK and overseas so other software companies would have a chance to sell and offer their software without M$ just crushing everyone in their own software...
again - you are putting blame on the wrong part. It is not valve "muscling in" - it is the publishers wanting to push their game on as many stores as possible. Valve just let them do more or less what they want. And there are other DD stores out there also who sell the same classics as gOg do - what about them?