Also, only yesterday you said I was somehow acting suspicious by "waiting". So why did you wait with the above post (you made a post in between).

I get the feeling you are desperate to throw Hitler at anyone now, just so suspicion is away from you.

This pure WIFOM. Fascist ZFR would certainly say that. Such small things are very cheap town cred but if you do it enough it adds up. He's scum, y'all. Is he Hitler, though? Are you trying to telegraph your support to your führer?

What I am saying is that we were having a serious discussion about shitposting with RW resigning and you tried to convince RW to not resign by saying what you said. I think you should have left the game info outside this discussion. And I misunderstood the "you" thinking you should have said "we" if you were liberal but I made a mistake. If you were liberal you wouldn't know RW is liberal so you used the "you".

Btw all these theories about asking to be in a government being a fascist move are stupid. Don't you think I know how psychology works and that you find it suspicious of me to ask to be in the future governments? An experienced player would never see that definitely as a fascist /Hitler move, he would say it's a 50-50 chance.

And something else. If brasas is a fascist, he can only be Hitler. If you believe I am liberal, a vanilla fascist would never pass me a 4th L to make it 4-1 and I don't need a guide to say this.

If Brasas is vanilla fascist and knows you're Hitler he'd pass you 4th L. We've gone through this already how 4-1 with strong team and Hitler passing as liberal is better for scum than 3-2 with the whole team and Hitler busted.

Well, I thought of the other scenario. If I were Hitler, wouldn't it be better to pass F and create a conflict with brasas? I would still be trusted and I would still be the next president with Lift. And then I could pass an L to Lift and be even stronger and established as liberal. That would depend on the draw of course but I would have very good chances to pull it.

Anyway, I don't want to spend more time thinking how to convince you so I will say this. At the moment I see brasas and dedo favorably and Zfr, RW and Adalia unfavorably. If Zfr, Rw and Adalia are liberals, you will have to convince me to change my view of the game. If you don't and we reach the assassination stage, I will vote against you and we may lose because of this.

Creating conflict would disqualify you from being chancellor. So if you are Hitler, you'd pass even the 4th liberal just so that you remain hidden.

As for the rest, there is a lot of nonsense flung around that I don't have time to read through carefully. As I said ZFR turning down the presidency put him on a suspicious list, and he hasn't come off it. RWarehall is unconfirmed in my book. So if brasas, dedo, scene, lift and greek are liberal, that means the rest must be scum. Of course greek so far is prime Hitler suspect so that might make one of the others L. Of course it can be that they are very shrewd fascists (I could imagine a dedo/brasas/scene setup where greek is H) who passed a lot of liberal policies and now are manipulating us to believe that they are liberal and we are winning.

I see many people concentrating on me as Hitler. The least you can do is a backup plan in case I am not hitler because if I am not, someone else is.

You think after you passed a fascist policy and Brasas claimed you were given a Liberal policy that you would still be trusted and still be the next president?

I don't know whether you're Hitler or not but logic like that does not instill me with confidence at this stage.

Well I am not good in making arguments against unreal scenarios, whatever. You can't prove you are not fascist, can you?

*popcorn again

@Greek
You are: Too Liberal To Be Liberal or TLTBL :P

Argh you confused me again you stupid, do you even read? I said IF YOU BELIEVE I AM LIBERAL and was referring to the scenario where I am liberal and brasas is fascist. You have mentioned your scenario again and again, don't interfere when I present another point of view to make people return to your scenario. Let people comment on my scenario and if you want say your opinion on MY scenario. Me liberal - brasas fascist. Is he Hitler or he can be a vanilla fascist too?

Yay! I'm a Druid! :-)

Basically we're now waiting for zeogold again, aren't we? And bantering a bit back and forth.

Puzzlemaster, wakey wakey! Before Big Brass blows his horn again! There is work to do.

FUUUU only 9 minutes passed sorry:)

Btw the reason I am asking about the "me liberal - brasas fascist is brasas hitler? " scenario is this. If Lift plays with brasas and brasas discards an L and we agree that in this case he is hitler, we have an extra option to win the game with assassination by having liberal presidents and just avoiding a hitler chancellor.
And Scene do me a favor and don't nominate someone immediately after the result is announced. I would like to discuss the possibility of you getting a government so that Lift can participate in the next 2 governments as president - president or chancellor - president.

Less of this please. Let's all keep it cool, ok?

Cool heads don't post merge!